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Post by Patrick Mills on Oct 8, 2009 11:15:51 GMT -5
Hi Nick Some great posts . The good news about winter fishing is that 'B' really starts to shine - fish that are turned off by the cold are simply forced to feed. Basically, if they are there you will catch in numbers so long as the correct flux of 'B' is maintained. This is really noticeable on modern commercials, where there always seem to be fish in every peg. When the water gets to ~55F it's time to switch to the double strength / winter dose and feed at about half the summer rate (less feed with more 'B' works out the same flux). Trev uses an atomizer to treat hard feed pellets - I'm sure he can provide details on dosages etc. that would also work well for bread and other baits too. Basically, you are looking for a 12g B per kg of feed dose in winter - what ever that is in terms of squirts for your atomizer with so many fractions of a gram per squirt (you'll have to do the math, sorry!). Having said that, the atomizer I have squirts 1 ml at a time and is typically used with ~ 50g B per 100 mL water to make a concentrated 'serum'. With the volume increase (from adding 'B' to the 100 mL water) it works out to about 0.45 g B per squirt, with ~27 squirts needed per kg of feed. You might want to check my maths - just done on the fly from memory and using rusty mental arithmetic! Hope that helps, Pat
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Larry
Sept 24, 2009 16:48:42 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Mills on Sept 24, 2009 16:48:42 GMT -5
Hi Larry
A golfball size ball every 15 mins, or an 'orange' every 20 - 25 mins works out about right for lakes. On rivers with decent flow, double the dose of compulsion for the same feeding rate.
You can use a golf ball wrapped in normal chum if you cast every 15 mins or so.
Hope tht helps,
Pat
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Larry
Sept 23, 2009 11:53:01 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Mills on Sept 23, 2009 11:53:01 GMT -5
Hi Larry
Which product(s) did you buy?
The important thing is to follow the instructions to the letter, as a constant flux of 'B' must be established and maintained in the swim. if you can do that, you'll catch!!
Pat M
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TURTLES
Aug 29, 2009 9:58:16 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Mills on Aug 29, 2009 9:58:16 GMT -5
;DI can indeed atest thet Trev is a turtle master.....
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on Jul 4, 2009 17:23:26 GMT -5
Hi Ian
Good to hear you caught a few fish with 'B'. During early tests we caught a good number of cats too, they just seem to love the stuff.
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on Jun 30, 2009 20:07:33 GMT -5
Hi Ian
As mentioned by others, adding the 'B' powder to dry paste before mixing is a great way to go (the paste can be stored dry and mixed on the bank). You can also add B 'groundbait water' to the dry paste for a similar effect. Don't be tempted to make up the paste too far ahead of time as it won't be as effective.
For the USA, I make a simple paste by adding a little flour (or other binder) to my regular dry groundbait (ground fine), then wetting with the 'B' water. I think there were some details on this in the powder guide?
One other thing, one of our paylake testers uses a similar bread based sandwich type hookbait - he simply dunks this in a strong solution of 'B' before casting out. Since he's won pretty much every event at the lake since using 'B' you could say it's working for him ;D
Pat
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Meat
Jun 16, 2009 19:21:03 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Mills on Jun 16, 2009 19:21:03 GMT -5
Hi Jamie First of all, congratulations on your recent results - a first and second in consecutive events is really good Regarding your question, it's a really good fundamental one. It all really comes back to what works best - figuring out the best dose of 'B' or simply trying various combinations until the 'magic dose' is arrived at. In practice we've found that the calculations give a good starting point (as detailed in the powder guide sent to all testers), but with real on the bank experiences being much more important. This is one of the main reasons I set up the forum - by sharing info. we get to the ideal applications much more quickly than we ever could on our own or by just crunching the numbers. The point you raised regarding how porous a bait is is also important. Less porous baits (like casters) need a longer soak in a stronger solution, while more porous baits (like expanders) just need a quick pump in a weaker solution. This then results in the bait leaking 'B' with a flux rate that best stimulates the fish. A good rule of thumb there then. Also, if a bait can be pumped do it, as this is a far more efficient way to get 'B' absorbed. Regarding how long baits last in the water while leaking 'B', it makes sense that the less porous ones last longer, more porous ones a shorter. A guess at a league table (fast to slow leak times) would be: Groundbait, Expanders, feed pellets, meat/corn, hemp, casters. Feel free to add comments or correct any of the above based on what you've found on the bank - these are 'best guestimates'. based on my (and Trev's) own experiences. Having said that, it's our hope that your bait isn't in the swim for too long.... ;D. Joking aside, that's an important point - fish will always be eating the bait (removing 'B'), so keep the feeding constant and steady - this is something that ALWAYS seems to work, even if the fish are slow to find the bait initially, as when they do arrive they must find the right level of 'B' in the swim to become stimulated. Hope that all helps - anyone else have any recent info. on this or any other subject? Cheers, Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on Jun 10, 2009 21:45:16 GMT -5
Thanks Trev
We both did well considering we had geared up for bagging larger carp but, likely because of spawning, they did not show on the day.
Another good result for 'B'!
Pat
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Meat
Jun 1, 2009 20:43:32 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Mills on Jun 1, 2009 20:43:32 GMT -5
Hi Jamie
Good to hear from you. Meat is one of those baits that just doesn't seem to work too well this side of the pond. I think Neil has had some good results with it. Anyone else have any comments regarding meat?
BTW - how have you been doing lately? Any wins? Please don't forget to keep us up to date with how you've been doing with 'B'.
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 28, 2009 10:13:40 GMT -5
Hi Nick
Any brand will do - just so long as it dosn't have Chlorine in it. I just use cheap supermarket brand bottled water or spring water.
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 21, 2009 18:18:59 GMT -5
Hi Dave 'B' is Biosource - a new feeding stimulant. Full details at: www.biosourcebaits.comor feel free to drop me an e-mail (see side bar) Pat M
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 18, 2009 20:28:31 GMT -5
:)Nice job Nick - glad to hear you had some success with those Dutch bream too.
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 13, 2009 13:13:58 GMT -5
Hi Folks
I've just learned that Biosource Baits products will be featured in upcoming Match Fishing and Advanced Pole Fishing reviews. Nice!
Pat
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 13, 2009 13:11:37 GMT -5
Hi All M&M Worms have just come out with a comprehensive range of Biosource treated retail products, including feed pellets, expander pellets, groundbait and a concentrated groundbait additive. Full details can be found at the M&M site: mandmworms.comPat
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Post by Patrick Mills on May 13, 2009 13:05:57 GMT -5
Hi Folks I've found soaking SALT FREE corn (any cheap brand) in 'B' produces a slightly more robust and effective bait. This may be due to osmosis drawing 'B' into the corn(??) - not sure, but it works Pat
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