Meat

[tarps]

I have been doing really well on meat with b powder poured on it and allow it to sweat overnight before u go fishing. The next day it has drawn all the powder in and works brilliantly.
Has won me a few pounds over the last couple of weeks

[trevor]

Good idea letting it soak in over night. We have found that this also works best when using corn. It takes longer for all of the B to leak out, so the effect lasts longer.

Trev.

[tarps]

how long do u reckon it takes for the b to leak out if meat or corn has been soaked overnight with the summer serum dosage trev??

Jamie

[Patrick Mills]

Hi Jamie

Good to hear from you. Meat is one of those baits that just doesn't seem to work too well this side of the pond. I think Neil has had some good results with it. Anyone else have any comments regarding meat?

BTW - how have you been doing lately? Any wins? Please don't forget to keep us up to date with how you've been doing with 'B'.

Pat

[trevor]

Hello Jamie.

I think it lasts for somewhere between 8 and 12 minutes when soaked overnight. Certain things like temperature, water movement etc make differences. The thing is if there is no water movement, 'b' is heavier than water, so will sit around the bait for longer. Personally if I do not get a bite within 8-10 minutes I always rebait.

Trevor

[tarps]

would B stay in certain baits for longer. for example more porous baits such as meat as oposed to corn or casters which dont soak the B up as well???
Thanks
Jamie

[Patrick Mills]

Hi Jamie

First of all, congratulations on your recent results - a first and second in consecutive events is really good

Regarding your question, it's a really good fundamental one. It all really comes back to what works best - figuring out the best dose of 'B' or simply trying various combinations until the 'magic dose' is arrived at. In practice we've found that the calculations give a good starting point (as detailed in the powder guide sent to all testers), but with real on the bank experiences being much more important. This is one of the main reasons I set up the forum - by sharing info. we get to the ideal applications much more quickly than we ever could on our own or by just crunching the numbers.

The point you raised regarding how porous a bait is is also important. Less porous baits (like casters) need a longer soak in a stronger solution, while more porous baits (like expanders) just need a quick pump in a weaker solution. This then results in the bait leaking 'B' with a flux rate that best stimulates the fish. A good rule of thumb there then. Also, if a bait can be pumped do it, as this is a far more efficient way to get 'B' absorbed.

Regarding how long baits last in the water while leaking 'B', it makes sense that the less porous ones last longer, more porous ones a shorter. A guess at a league table (fast to slow leak times) would be:

Groundbait, Expanders, feed pellets, meat/corn, hemp, casters.

Feel free to add comments or correct any of the above based on what you've found on the bank - these are 'best guestimates'. based on my (and Trev's) own experiences. Having said that, it's our hope that your bait isn't in the swim for too long.... ;D. Joking aside, that's an important point - fish will always be eating the bait (removing 'B'), so keep the feeding constant and steady - this is something that ALWAYS seems to work, even if the fish are slow to find the bait initially, as when they do arrive they must find the right level of 'B' in the swim to become stimulated.

Hope that all helps - anyone else have any recent info. on this or any other subject?

Cheers,

Pat

[tarps]

good report Pat. Very interesting. I am going to try and make a league table over a period of the next few times I go fishing and try soaking different baits as mentioned above to discover how long B stays in them.

[trevor]

Hi Jamie.

I also air on the side of caution that if in doubt take it out and put some fresh bait on, and add a few more pellets etc to the swim at the same time.

Trev.